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 Post subject: Can force powers be used through windows?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:08 pm 
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Hello, friends and I were playing for the first time. I was using darth vader on a map that everyone at the table agreed had windows which on the map, have the red outline impying they are hard walls. There was one moment where I was within range to deal damage with force powers via line of sight. But it would of been line of sight via the window. As a group we decided against me being allowed to deal damage. But would like to know what the offical stance would be?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:58 pm 
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Kylanm wrote:
Hello, friends and I were playing for the first time. I was using darth vader on a map that everyone at the table agreed had windows which on the map, have the red outline impying they are hard walls. There was one moment where I was within range to deal damage with force powers via line of sight. But it would of been line of sight via the window. As a group we decided against me being allowed to deal damage. But would like to know what the offical stance would be?


First, windows are only used in scenarios. So the "official" rule is that windows don't even exist in standard games. They are just walls.

However, assuming this is either a scenario or for a casual you have agreed to use windows, then... well, now I have to go find a physical rulebook that uses windows. The last published rulebook is linked here, but it doesn't mention windows:

https://swmgamers.com/PDF/Rules/Rulebook_CloneWars.pdf

I'll have an answer for you shortly.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:11 pm 
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This is from the Ultimate Missions: Clone Strike book:

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WINDOWS

Windows block attacks (and special abilities that replace attacks) until they are broken.

A character can break a window by moving into one of the squares directly in front of the window and breaking the glass; this replaces the character's attack and does not require an attack roll. A character with line of sight to a window can break it with a successful ranged attack (windows have Defense 2 and shatter on taking any amount of damage); this also replaces the character's attack.

Moving through a broken window costs 1 additional square of movement. A character cannot move diagonally through a broken window.

Broken windows provide cover (+4 bonus to Defense) and do not block line of sight.


If you simply played it as if the window were a wall, then you played according to standard (tournament) rules.

If you were using scenario rules for windows, then based on the above, you couldn't use your Force power unless you had first destroyed the window.

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