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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:02 am 
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I'm dusting off my sets of Star Wars Minis to play again. Pulling out my stuff I remembered that I have a few of the alternative mini cards that I picked up a long time ago at a Gen Con. I cannot remember how the alternative card sets are tied to the original sets. Is it a one to one ratio? Does a printed virtual set go with a particular physically published set? I have five of the v-sets (am I using that term correctly?) printed - two of each. Is it possible to get other sets printed? Is there anyone that I can trade my duplicate printed sets with to obtain more original printed sets? Does the minis community consider the v-sets better (more balanced, etc) than the original sets? I apologize for the burst of questions. I've been meaning to do this and keep putting it off. It seemed to be more productive to get as many questions out as possible. If need be I can break them down to different areas of the forum or simply separate them....? Regardless, I appreciate any efforts the community makes to answering these questions!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:56 am 
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Vince, there are now 22 v-sets, there are PDF files on the home page here that you can download and print all the v-set cards from. Alternatively, you can reach out to the community on www.bloomilk.Com and ask if anyone has preprinted sets still available, there are probably some out there. As far as using them for gameplay, each v-set character has a recommended mini pictured on the card and you can use those recommended WOTC minis to proxy for the v-set character. If you don't have the exact recommended mini in your collection you can substitute with something you do have as they are just recommended minis anyway. As long as you and your opponent can easily tell who is supposed to be who it really doesn't matter too much, it is a game and supposed to be fun right? So welcome back and hope that answers some of your questions.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:25 am 
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digiconda wrote:
I'm dusting off my sets of Star Wars Minis to play again. Pulling out my stuff I remembered that I have a few of the alternative mini cards that I picked up a long time ago at a Gen Con. I cannot remember how the alternative card sets are tied to the original sets. Is it a one to one ratio? Does a printed virtual set go with a particular physically published set? I have five of the v-sets (am I using that term correctly?) printed - two of each. Is it possible to get other sets printed? Is there anyone that I can trade my duplicate printed sets with to obtain more original printed sets? Does the minis community consider the v-sets better (more balanced, etc) than the original sets? I apologize for the burst of questions. I've been meaning to do this and keep putting it off. It seemed to be more productive to get as many questions out as possible. If need be I can break them down to different areas of the forum or simply separate them....? Regardless, I appreciate any efforts the community makes to answering these questions!

Vince


Welcome back! You'll find a more active community over at bloomilk.com. The forums here are actually pretty active - but only in the hidden forums where we design the vsets. For better or worse, the public conversations mostly take place on bloomilk where the database is.

All of the Vsets have been professionally printed, and someone has the extras. Probably urbanjedi or engineer. I'm not exactly sure, but urbanjedi (either here or on bloomilk) will be able to point you in the right direction if he doesn't have the extras himself. I know they run out of older sets. I don't know how far back you can go, but I know you won't be able to get professionally printed copies of everything. You can print your own cards, though, using the PDFs that you can find here:

https://swmgamers.com/SWM/V-setMain.html

If you want to trade or sell your duplicate Vsets, there are a couple of active groups on facebook that are probably the best bet for trading. The very first set, in particular, is really hard to come by.

In the competitive scene, the Vsets have brought "balance to the Force" in the sense that all of the factions are more even now than they were during WotC days. Those of us who have been playing competitively have appreciated the variety the Vsets have provided. For more casual players, there are mixed reviews. Vsets have now made more sets and more pieces than WotC made, so if you want a stat block for your favorite character than never got a WotC mini, there's a very strong chance that there's a Vset card for that character. Some players appreciate that. Some also appreciate the variety the Vsets provide.

On the other hand, WotC left us with about 900 pieces, but only about 150 that are playable competitively. Most of the ~1000 Vset pieces are targeted to that competitive power level. There are a lot more options now, but there are probably 750 "competitive" pieces with most of them being Vset pieces. There are some complaints that Vsets are overpowered broken garbage based on that. The complaint makes sense for someone with a couple hundred pieces. If you have 200 minis, that means you probably only have about 30 competitive minis. Now drop 600 stat blocks that are all as good as your top 30 minis. Pretty overwhelming and makes most of your minis look terrible. But then again, if you had all 150 competitive WotC minis, those other minis would already look terrible anyway.

Think of Yobuck, Thrawn, and Dash Rendar, Renegade Smuggler. They are far more powerful than most WotC pieces. Most Vsets are targeted toward that level. Well, not as powerful as Thrawn... he's uberpowerful. There are maybe 5 or 10 Vset pieces as powerful as Thrawn. But most Vset pieces are targeted to be able to have a role in a squad that can compete with Thrawn.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:43 am 
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Oh, and what Greg said was right regarding how the Vsets relate to the WotC sets.

Each card pictures a recommended mini (RM), which is a WotC miniature that you can use as a stand-in for that character. Many players make their own custom minis for some characters and use those instead. The same WotC miniature may be used as the RM for multiple Vset cards. As an example, the Mandalorian Gunslinger is one of the only (maybe the only) female Mandalorian figures, so she has been used multiple times over the years to represent female Mandalorians.

There is no set-to-set relationship between WotC sets and Vsets.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:45 am 
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I have sets 19-22 and I do the shipping out now. You can sent me a bloomail at bloomilk.com. Give me your address and I will get them out to you.

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