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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:34 am 
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HK-47, Assassin Droid
Faction:Fringe
Cost:55
HP:100
Def:19
Atk:10
Dam:20

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Twin Atack
Cunning Attack
Programmable Target
Assassination Protocol-This character gains +10 damage when attacking an enemy commander, if the attack hits that character is considered activated this round, save 11.
Shields 1:when this character takes damage, reduce damage dealt by 10. save 11.


"Assassination Protocol Active."

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cool fig and good stats, but he seems overcosted IMO.


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EDIT: thanks nathan.

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Looks awsome man. I really like the custom ability. He looks just about perefect for his point cost

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i think he was refering to his stats in general, overpowered. but he can only do a max of 40 dam to a unactivated commander.

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He looks like a piece that opponents would dread seeing in your squad list. :D

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Personally, I'm not paying 53 points for a mini that can only attack once. Give him double attack or twin, or something. I wouldn't play him with one attack.


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DarkLordVerjal wrote:
i think he was refering to his stats in general, overpowered. but he can only do a max of 40 dam to a unactivated commander.


I was saying when he was 59 points, I didn't even see twin or double, so I didn't think he was worth 59 at the time, but since he has twin attack and cunning now I think he's definitely worth the 55 points.


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DarkLordVerjal wrote:
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Assassination Protocol-This character gains +10 damage when attacking an enemy commander, that character is considered activated this round, save 11.
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On this ability, does it mean the commander is activated just by declaring an attack on him, or does HK actually have to hit? A little ambiguous as written - might be too powerful if he activates an enemy just by attacking. Other stats look good at this point.


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thanks for pointing that out, fixed.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:33 am 
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Bumped. :palps:

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Heh, somehow I missed this originally, and as fan of HK-47, I can't believe I missed it!

I love the ideas. I'm trying to think through the costing a bit, and I'm thinking that with the package of stats and the abilities that he has, he's defnitely undercosted right now.

Compare him to Mandalore the Indomitable. Same Defense, about the same HP. A little less attack, but Cunning makes up for that. Twin instead of Double gives him an edge, as does Mobile. Then, add in the option of Accurate Shot (which adds another +4 attack on top of that) and extra damage against a commander? Means HK has a damage potential of 80 per turn, with a possible +18 attack, and he can do that while Mobile attacking, so he won't be left out in the open. Mandalore has to move the previous round, and then sit still in order to Double Attack, meaning possibly two rounds of being shot at.

Actually, compare HK to Boba BH for that matter. Boba's max damage per round (obviously without Disintegration) is 40 damage, with a max of +18 attack. Twin and Mobile, so that's the same. HK can do twice that amount of damage, AND activate the target.

I think the stats as you have them there are easily closer to a 70 point figure. Removing shields would help, but I think the biggest thing to keeping him at a cost of 55 would be to take off Mobile. With 110 HP, 19 defense, and all the various options available for moving figures out of LOS after they've moved/attacked, I really don't think he needs Mobile.

Also, instead of Programmed Target, you could change the way Assassination Protocol works. Might I suggest: "Assassination Protocol - (After setup, if you have this character in your squad, choose any one Unique enemy. This character gets +10 Damage against only the chosen enemy. This character also ignores all cover when targeting the chosen enemy. If this character hits the chosen enemy with an attack, that enemy is considered activated for this round, save 11.)" A little longer, and a little wordier, but I think it gets the effect you want, without it being too over-powered. Plus, the ability to ignore cover offsets the Accurate and +4 of Programmed Target.

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so he can dish out 80 dmg, at +14 (assuming he is attacking an unactivated commander), stun the commander, use mobile to stay out of LOS, and have shields to defend? droids remeber, have lower HP and defense. You can keep shields, but with that major damage output, i would raise the cost to around 60-62 or loewr his HP to 90, or remove shields, lower HP to 100, and keep cost the same. Or remove mobile.

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Edited. Thanks.

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