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| Author: | simone89 [ Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Disintegration Question |
When a character with disintegration rolls a crit on someone is the only way to keep from dying with a bodyguard??? I seem to remember Lightsaber Deflect or Reflect negating it. Is this true? |
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| Author: | Sithborg [ Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
No. Disentegration is not damage, it is a side effect of being hit (unless the target or the Bodyguard are a Huge, then Disentegration is bonus damage). Deflect & Reflect only negate damage (though you can still do damage back on a Disentegration with Reflect). |
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| Author: | simone89 [ Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
ahhhhh that must have been it....you kill my guy and I do you 10 damage!!! so I guess I have to go with the bodyguard.... |
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| Author: | Boba52 [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
FYI- This information is posted in the Archives of the Gamers Jedi under Disintegration or Disintegration: If this character rolls a natural 20 on an attack roll, the target character is defeated regardless of its Hit Points. The target is defeated even if it avoids damage with a special ability or Force power. If another character takes the damage from that attack (for example, using the Bodyguard special ability), the other character is defeated instead of the original target. Against Huge or larger targets, the attacker gets +40 Damage instead of defeating the target. (Add the bonus damage after multiplying.) Characters
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| Author: | simone89 [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
that is cool!!! I looked though the rules questions and the FAQ's first before posting!!! thx for the resource!!! |
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| Author: | simone89 [ Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
I have another question on disintegration. Can I use "Force Alter" to cause a re-roll if the character with disint. crits my character??? I would think you could respond to it, before your character is removed from play. |
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| Author: | dvader831 [ Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
You are correct. Force Alter is another way around a Disintegration. |
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| Author: | Ruhk [ Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
Also, another thing to point out: Against Huges, its an additional 40 damage (for a total of 80), however there is one figure that is Huge, that also has Lightsaber Deflect: Obi-Wan on Boga. If BF, BH or a Gotal were to roll a crit against Obi on Boga, he could attempt to deflect the damage, and possibly avoid the damage entirely. Thus, it is possible to avoid a 'Disintegration' ! |
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| Author: | Darth_Edon [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
Ruhk wrote: Also, another thing to point out: Against Huges, its an additional 40 damage (for a total of 80), however there is one figure that is Huge, that also has Lightsaber Deflect: Obi-Wan on Boga. If BF, BH or a Gotal were to roll a crit against Obi on Boga, he could attempt to deflect the damage, and possibly avoid the damage entirely. Thus, it is possible to avoid a 'Disintegration' ! simone89 wrote: I have another question on disintegration. Can I use "Force Alter" to cause a re-roll if the character with disint. crits my character??? I would think you could respond to it, before your character is removed from play. i would have to say negative on these...the rules clearly state: Quote: Disintegration: If this character rolls a natural 20 on an attack roll, the target character is defeated regardless of its Hit Points. The target is defeated even if it avoids damage with a special ability or Force power. i would think the only way around it would be the bodyguard ability because that's in there specifically: Quote: If another character takes the damage from that attack (for example, using the Bodyguard special ability), the other character is defeated instead of the original target.
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| Author: | Sithborg [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
See, Alter doesn't avoid damage in anyway. Alter makes it as if the attack that is being altered had never happened. So, no 20 was rolled, no Disentegration. When a result is rerolled, the first is considered to never have happened. It is actually somewhat misleading to say that Alter gets around Disentegration. It doesn't avoid the effect, it just makes it as if it never happened. |
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| Author: | Boba52 [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
Darth_Edon wrote: Ruhk wrote: Also, another thing to point out: Against Huges, its an additional 40 damage (for a total of 80), however there is one figure that is Huge, that also has Lightsaber Deflect: Obi-Wan on Boga. If BF, BH or a Gotal were to roll a crit against Obi on Boga, he could attempt to deflect the damage, and possibly avoid the damage entirely. Thus, it is possible to avoid a 'Disintegration' ! i would have to say negative on these... Sithborg correctly answered your statement regarding Force Alter and Ruhk was talking about a Huge character, so that piece would not be defeated because it is huge. |
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| Author: | Darth_Edon [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
well, some guys on gleemax think otherwise http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.ph ... ntegration |
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| Author: | Fox [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
Well that's great for them Edon. But that's how it works according to Nickname aka the Official Rules Rep. |
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| Author: | Sithborg [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
Darth_Edon wrote: That's the only way to prevent it after the Disentegration happens. Never go for full lists, as often times, it can be wrong. Read the Resolving Effects section of the FAQ. Alter CLEARLY happens before Disentegration is resolved. |
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| Author: | simone89 [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
holy necro batman!!!! but anyway, I went over there and it appears that they agree with everything that SB said!!! They didnt talk about alter, but I belive what I read above. |
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| Author: | Darth_Edon [ Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disintegration Question |
ok, gotcha! |
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