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Author:  DarkDracul [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Nomi Sunrider, Head of the Jedi Order CE & Move Faster

Nomi Sunrider, Head of the Jedi Order CE:
Allies' Force powers with a range listed increase the range by 2 squares.

Move faster is a force power and it lists 2 squares.

So you can spend a force point and move 4 squares?

Right?? *please say it is true

Author:  sthlrd2 [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nomi Sunrider, Head of the Jedi Order CE & Move Faster

No, for 2 reasons that I can think of.

1) it's not a force power (named force powers) on the card are force POWERS.

You can spend a force POINT to move faster or to reroll an atk.

2) I wouldnt consider that Range 2, it's Moving 2 Extra squares. There is a big difference in how things are worded exactly.

Author:  UrbanShmi [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nomi Sunrider, Head of the Jedi Order CE & Move Faster

Um...no. Move faster increases a piece's speed...it has nothing to do with range.

The word "range" in this context means the distance between the acting piece and some other piece. So it would increase most lightnings and pushes to 8 squares.

Author:  DarkDracul [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nomi Sunrider, Head of the Jedi Order CE & Move Faster

1) Move Faster and Reroll are force powers.

2) It's not clear what "range" means if it doesn't mean squares.

Author:  UrbanShmi [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nomi Sunrider, Head of the Jedi Order CE & Move Faster

1. I actually agree with you that Move Faster and Reroll are force powers, but

2. Range has a specific in-game meaning, to wit:

Quote:
Sometimes a Force power or a special ability works only within a listed range. This is the distance in squares between the attacker's and the defender's square, counting the defender’s square.


That's the glossary definition of "range." I would argue that it could be extended to include Force Powers that grant a benefit to an ally, but, as I said before, speed is not the same as range. Move Faster increases speed. There's no range involved.

Author:  DarkDracul [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nomi Sunrider, Head of the Jedi Order CE & Move Faster

Thanks! That clears things up enough for me.

Too bad tho, it would have made Nomi really worth her points.

Author:  sthlrd2 [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nomi Sunrider, Head of the Jedi Order CE & Move Faster

DarkDracul wrote:
1) Move Faster and Reroll are force powers.

2) It's not clear what "range" means if it doesn't mean squares.


That's incorrect. Look in the rules, it's very clear. First it says force POINTS and only lists moving faster (speed) like shmi said and reroling not once calling them force powers. and then force POWERS and specifically talks about named force powers.
Spending a force point to do something and a force power are two different things.

I thought it was a good question and I had to look around a bit but don't tell someone there wrong for answering your question that you didn't know the answer to.

Author:  Sithborg [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nomi Sunrider, Head of the Jedi Order CE & Move Faster

sthlrd2 wrote:
DarkDracul wrote:
1) Move Faster and Reroll are force powers.

2) It's not clear what "range" means if it doesn't mean squares.


That's incorrect. Look in the rules, it's very clear. First it says force POINTS and only lists moving faster (speed) like shmi said and reroling not once calling them force powers. and then force POWERS and specifically talks about named force powers.
Spending a force point to do something and a force power are two different things.

I thought it was a good question and I had to look around a bit but don't tell someone there wrong for answering your question that you didn't know the answer to.


No, for all intents and purposes, Move Faster and Reroll are considered Force Powers, ie they can be Force Defensed/Absorbed.

Author:  DarkDracul [ Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nomi Sunrider, Head of the Jedi Order CE & Move Faster

@sthlrd2-
I never said you were wrong for answering my question.
Thank you for trying to answer my question.

I just stated a FACT that Move faster is considered a force power.
It's not a "named" force power, but it is a force power.

Unfortunately, it seems force powers like Move Faster, Knight Speed, Master Speed, ect. are without RANGE!

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