When I look through the list of special abilities and Force powers, I'm struck by just how terrible Harpoon Gun is.

(Replaces attacks: range 6; target enemy with Mounted Weapon cannot move this round; save 11)

When would it ever, ever, be a good idea to use this instead of Twin Attacking with a Snowspeeder (or Luke's Snowspeeder)?

Does anyone else have a vote for a worthless Special Ability or Force Power?

I personally think thats the worst, but Impulsive Savagery is up there.

Sonic Stunner on IG-88 is a hard one to justify using, especially when he's also got Flamethrower 20.

Shockwave is pretty useless... if anyone even uses Mace JM.

LS Precision is a tough decision to use as well- do you gamble on the extra damage or save for a re-roll.

Harpoon Gun is still the worst. I can't even fathom when this would be a good idea because using it against an AT-AT doesn't help at all. The cone of attack + relentless is the only reprieve from the onslaught, if you stop it, you're only helping the enemy.
Had they added a damage condition like Corruption: Target enemy remains unable to move and takes 30 damage each time it activates for the rest of the round. Enemies can avoid the damage each time it activates by making a save of 11.

Impulsive Savagery is the absolute worst, there is nothing positive about that ability, at least Harpoon Gun actually helps you.

Force Ascetic
Force Empathic
Heavy Weapon
Mercenary

Well at least Mercenary has one CE devoted to it...not that anybody uses Nym often...

Fragile
Speed 1

Force Ascetic
Force Empathic
Fragile 40
Heavy Weapon
Impulsive Savagery
Mercenary
Speed 1

These are all designed to be negative Special Abilities. They're penalties really, not "abilities" at all. You could add these to the list as well:

Frozen in Carbonite
Limited Field of Fire
Relentless
Speed 2
Speed 4
Weak Spots 10

Let me rephrase the question then, what Special Ability or Force Power that replaces attacks or replaces turn, do you think is the most worthless?

Fragile. someone said it already but i agree its frickin horrible.

I hate Sonic stunner more than any other SA. Pathetic power on such a bad ass Bounty Hunter. Net gun is up there too.....

I thought I would be the first to say Sonic Stunner. It is completely useless in my opinion.

Oh well, always late to the party.

Well I think all the bad ones are already listed.

Ones I don't use are;
Harpoon Gun
Sonic Stunner
Jedi Mind Trick

Can't say I'm particularly fond of Relentless either, in fact we House Ruled that if the AT-AT Driver is with 6 squares the AT-AT loses Relentless.

JMT is good, no AOO. In some cases it's better then stun.

Melee Attack is a pretty big drawback

Savage sucks.

Unique is annoying

As fas as usable SE's Harpoon gun is pretty situational. You essentially use it when the ATAT kneels to let out troops, you can freeze it in the position.

Rapport on Weequay Leader/Skiff/Bib Fortuna/Gamorrean Thug/Weequay Thug/Rodian Hunt Master. Seriously, has *anyone* pulled out RS Jabba to benefit from this?

Alderaan Senator: So my horrible 29pt VR can be slightly better if I happen to be using a specific, mundane 6pt piece as well?


Another topic could be: what obsure abilities do you wish we saw more of? I hope Deliah Blue has Pheromones, that's a hilarious ability, especially when a male character keeps failing the save against Xizor...

I think all those negative abilites are WAY better than some of the other ones mentioned.

The negative abilities should lower the cost of the fig in question.

Sonic Stunner probably increased IG's cost by a point or two which I'd much rather spend elsewhere.

Harpoon gun probably also increased the cost of the snowspeeder by a few points, worthlessly.

At least fragile, lower speed, heavy weapon, merc, etc all do something clearly negative and thus probably grant some discount or allow some other stat to be artificially higher.

I'd say Net Gun on the Wookie Hunter AT-ST is the MOST worthless of all special abilities. When on earth would you use a 58 point fig just for the slight chance to activate some fig. Also, this ability is CLEARLY costing the AT-ST 4 extra points higher than grenades did on the other AT-ST.

I'll admit, I've used the netgun once on teh WH AT-ST, when based by a jedi who would kill next activation. Honestly, that probably wasn't even the right choice, as it was simply a 25% chance I'd have another turn rather than just trying to pound home a crit and win right there.

Ha! Ha!

I agree. Net Gun and Harpoon Gun are the most worthless. When would you ever use those?

IDK, net gun can be useful...If you want someone to stay put so you can finish him, but having someone else to do damage. Harpoon is just pointless.

The Net Gun on the WH AT-ST isn't too bad, since it's a Save of 16. I don't make Save 11's very often, so Save 16 really bites for me. Net Gun 11 on things like Boba Enforcer bother me even more. Now, if it had a longer range restriction, like sight, or 12 squares, then maybe it'd be worth it.

So far, I'd have to say Sonic Stunner or Harpoon gun would be my votes for the worst, although Wedge pointed out a brilliant one with Alderaan Senator.

I think the question the OP was really trying to ask was "What is the worst ability?" Period. Not what's the worst combination of an ability on a piece (like Rapport on the Weequays, etc.).

It can be useful, but only in certain situations.(Net Gun)

As the OP, I honestly don't know what I was trying to ask.

I just like discussing things with the community, and I decided to try to start a discussion based on how terrible Harpoon Gun is.