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| Author: | R5Don4 [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
the only reference on wookieepedia to Rodians is from the Bounty Hunters mini Rodian Hunt Master or a Huntmaster in Wookiee culture. It doesn't technically exist in canon, but neither does Tranodshan Mid-Wife or Trandoshan Chef, it doesn't mean we can't make it up. Cradossk, Bossk's father was the head of the Bounty Hunter's Guild, which is who comes to mind when I try to mentally connect Trandoshan Huntmaster with source material. |
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| Author: | FlyingArrow [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
R5Don4 wrote: the only reference on wookieepedia to Rodians is from the Bounty Hunters mini Rodian Hunt Master or a Huntmaster in Wookiee culture. It doesn't technically exist in canon, but neither does Tranodshan Mid-Wife or Trandoshan Chef, it doesn't mean we can't make it up. Cradossk, Bossk's father was the head of the Bounty Hunter's Guild, which is who comes to mind when I try to mentally connect Trandoshan Huntmaster with source material. Who has played the video games to say more about the Wookiee Huntmaster? The Rodian Hunt Master doesn't really have anything to do with bounty hunting, but from the little bit on wookieepedia, it looks like the Wookiee version might. |
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| Author: | GeneralGrievous [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
adamb0nd wrote: Some other outside the box ideas. Huntmasters are actually hunters, not just bounty hunters. What about something entirely different like this? CE: Trandoshan allies gain Snare Rifle and Savage Hunter I like this idea as well! Net gun or snare rifle. All the same to me. Just thinking of that clone wars episode where they are hunting the padawans. So on that note: Trandoshan Huntmaster 30, hp 80, def 16, atk 6, dmg 20 SA Ambush Regeneration 10 Double claw attack Rend +20 Blast Cannon (+10 Damage against targets within 6 squares) Camradirie (Trandoshan allies gain snare rifle) CE Trandoshan allies gain Ambush while within 6 squares of this character |
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| Author: | FlyingArrow [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
After reading a bit more, I'm inclined to agree with the earlier poster that this character should boost "characters with a special ability or name that contains Hunter". (Perhaps only non-uniques.) Whether hunting bounties, droids, jedi, or just wild animals doesn't seem to matter to Trandoshans. It's the aggression and the scorekeeping that matters. (See the Society and Culture part of http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Trandoshan .) Along the same lines, I think it makes sense to give him Hunter (SA from the epic Boba). Trandoshan Hunt Master 25 HP 70 Def 18 Atk 12 Dmg 20 Camaraderie (Trandoshan allies gain Bounty Hunter +2) Hunter (After setup, choose 1 of the following: a specific faction, Unique enemies, Droid enemies, or enemies with a Force rating. This character gains +4 Attack and +10 Damage against the chosen type of enemy for the rest of the skirmish.) Greater Mobile Attack Rapport (Characters whose name contains Trandoshan cost 1 less when in a squad with this character) CE: Allies with a name or a special ability that contains Hunter gain Ambush and Backlash. |
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| Author: | Sithborg [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
Hunter is going to remain an Epic ability. |
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| Author: | FlyingArrow [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
Trandoshan Hunt Master 145 HP 190 Def 20 Atk 17 Dmg 30 Camaraderie (Trandoshan allies gain Bounty Hunter +6) Hunter (After setup, choose 1 of the following: a specific faction, Unique enemies, Droid enemies, or enemies with a Force rating. This character gains +4 Attack and +10 Damage against the chosen type of enemy for the rest of the skirmish.) Triple Attack Stealth Evade Shields 2 Greater Mobile Attack Rapport (Characters whose name contains Trandoshan cost 1 less when in a squad with this character) CE: Allies with a name or a special ability that contains Hunter gain Greater Mobile Attack and +10 Damage. |
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| Author: | jonnyb815 [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
GeneralGrievous wrote: adamb0nd wrote: Some other outside the box ideas. Huntmasters are actually hunters, not just bounty hunters. What about something entirely different like this? CE: Trandoshan allies gain Snare Rifle and Savage Hunter I like this idea as well! Net gun or snare rifle. All the same to me. Just thinking of that clone wars episode where they are hunting the padawans. So on that note: Trandoshan Huntmaster 30, hp 80, def 16, atk 6, dmg 20 SA Ambush Double claw attack Rend +20 Blast Cannon (+10 Damage against targets within 6 squares) Camradirie (Trandoshan allies gain snare rifle) CE Trandoshan allies gain Ambush while within 6 squares of this character I like that he gives out Ambush to Trandoshans. There is too much for the SA. I would drop Snare rifle to one ally and he has to have snare rifle to give it. I would drop Rend 20 to 10 and Take out blast cannon for snare rifle. Camradirie to one ally. I still think there is too much going on even with my changes. I do like the feel but there too much and its too strong. I would drop the whole snare rifle and just give out BH 2. Trandoshan Huntmaster 25 cost hp 70, def 16, atk 8 dmg 20 SA Ambush Double claw attack Rend +20 Regen+10 Bounty hunter +2 CE Trandoshan allies gain Ambush and bounty hunter +2 while within 6 squares of this character[/quote] |
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| Author: | Sithborg [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
A note about Camaraderie. It really isn't supposed to be designed to help more than one or two specific figures, mainly Uniques. With a few rare occurences, it also supposed to give out an SA that is on the character itself. |
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| Author: | Lord_Ball [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
Sithborg wrote: A note about Camaraderie. It really isn't supposed to be designed to help more than one or two specific figures, mainly Uniques. With a few rare occurences, it also supposed to give out an SA that is on the character itself. While it's initial creation was for Uniques is there really a problem using it to dish out a low powered ability (BH +2) to a variety of Non-Uniques that share a common trait? |
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| Author: | FlyingArrow [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
Trandoshan Hunt Master 26 HP: 70 Def: 17 Atk: 12 Dmg: 30 Greater Mobile Attack Indiscriminate Stealth Rapport (Allies whose name contains Trandoshan cost 1 less) CE: Trandoshan allies gain Bounty Hunter +2. Followers with a name or a special ability that contains Hunter gain Double Attack and Ambush while within 6 squares of this character. |
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| Author: | OhMyGOWK [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
Here's my take: Trandoshan Hunt Master 31 points (probably not haha) HP: 70 Def: 16 Atk: 9 Dmg: 20 Twin Attack Close-Quarters Fighting Wookiee Hunter (+4 attack against Wookiees) Rapport (Trandoshan characters cost 1 less) Regeneration 10 Stealth Commander Effect: Allied Trandoshan characters gain Twin Attack. At the end of this character's turn, one Trandoshan ally may take an immediate turn. |
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| Author: | Sithborg [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
Lord_Ball wrote: Sithborg wrote: A note about Camaraderie. It really isn't supposed to be designed to help more than one or two specific figures, mainly Uniques. With a few rare occurences, it also supposed to give out an SA that is on the character itself. While it's initial creation was for Uniques is there really a problem using it to dish out a low powered ability (BH +2) to a variety of Non-Uniques that share a common trait? Balance problem no. But it would likely be renamed. |
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| Author: | GeneralGrievous [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
I see what your saying Johnny and agree that some of the extras could be dropped. However it seeems like Rend+20, double claw and regen are race traits. So really it's just ambush and snare rifle for SAs if we can't use Camradirie. The Wookie hunter fits but is to situational to be practical, I do like the rapport for Trandoshans though. It looks like it's the bounty hunter option or the snare rifle/ambush one thus far. So new take similar to last: Trandoshan Huntmaster 27, hp 70, def 18, atk 9, dmg 20 SA Ambush Regeneration 10 Double claw attack Rend +20 Snare Rifle CE Trandoshan allies gain Ambush while within 6 squares of this character Trandoshan Allies gain Snare Rifle |
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| Author: | jonnyb815 [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
Here are the base stats I think we should have on him cost 25-35 70-100 hp 7-10 attack 16-19 def 20 damage Double claw Regen 10 Rend 20 Wookiee hunter Rapport-1 trans ce for trans I think he can give out snare rife to one ally trans at the beginning of the game or having it is fine but having ambush and snare is too much. Giving out snare to all is too much I think. |
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| Author: | Lord_Ball [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
Sithborg wrote: Lord_Ball wrote: Sithborg wrote: A note about Camaraderie. It really isn't supposed to be designed to help more than one or two specific figures, mainly Uniques. With a few rare occurences, it also supposed to give out an SA that is on the character itself. While it's initial creation was for Uniques is there really a problem using it to dish out a low powered ability (BH +2) to a variety of Non-Uniques that share a common trait? Balance problem no. But it would likely be renamed. Will do! rename it Clan or something along that lines. |
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| Author: | kamikaze13 [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
Okay, here is my take: Trandoshan Hunt Master HP: 70 Def: 17 Atk: 9 Dmg: 20 Double claw attack Indiscriminate Rapport (Trandoshan -1) Rend +20 Regeneration 10 Commander Effect: Trandoshan allies gain Snare Rifle. Non-Unique Followers with a name or a special ability that contains Hunter gain Double Attack and Ambush while within 6 squares of this character. Giving Trandos BH would be fine too as that works well with the Crimson Nova Guild Leader. LOL at the Epic. |
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| Author: | FlyingArrow [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
jonnyb815 wrote: I think he can give out snare rife to one ally trans at the beginning of the game or having it is fine but having ambush and snare is too much. Giving out snare to all is too much I think. I agree with this. Snare Rifle should not be given to more than a couple people. |
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| Author: | TheHutts [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
FlyingArrow wrote: jonnyb815 wrote: I think he can give out snare rife to one ally trans at the beginning of the game or having it is fine but having ambush and snare is too much. Giving out snare to all is too much I think. I agree with this. Snare Rifle should not be given to more than a couple people. It's potentially way over-powered with General Veers. |
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| Author: | R5Don4 [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
TheHutts wrote: FlyingArrow wrote: jonnyb815 wrote: I think he can give out snare rife to one ally trans at the beginning of the game or having it is fine but having ambush and snare is too much. Giving out snare to all is too much I think. I agree with this. Snare Rifle should not be given to more than a couple people. It's potentially way over-powered with General Veers. Not to mention the Mercenary Commander that gives Mercenaries Furious Assault. Anyone that has seen Epic OR in action can tell you forget this idea right now. |
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| Author: | jonnyb815 [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Trandoshan Huntmaster: Vset Project 1 |
Odds are this is not a power 10 card. We need to think power 6-8. So think of one good ce and make him a good attacker like a weak wookiee. This should be more of a flavor piece if we don't think it has enough power add more so on. I think he needs to have a bounty hunter ce and something for one trandoShan. Something vs wookiees. Double claw and regen. I can take or leave rend. I think he needs to be a bounty hunter if it's a cradossk nu. Let's get the basic stats done and work on the ce then or have a weak ce as a place holder. So we can get a feel of we're the character is going. |
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