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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:35 am 
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Either drop Affinity Republic, or add Affinity to Old Republic. Seems strange to me now to go half way. I'd almost say make them Affinity for the Old republic and drop the "Republic" if nothing else. I don't remember a lot of them around during the clone wars.

But honestly, we did the Wookiee for all three, I'd say add it for OR too and be done with it.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:41 am 
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If they need Affinity for OR I don't have a problem with that. They didn't start out with Affinity at all. Originally they were just NR.

Canonly, I'd really like them to have Affinity to Old Republic. The reason there were Gray Jedi was because of events in the Old Republic, with Jolee Bindo being one of the most famous Gray Jedi. So if that's fine it will fit the flavor of the character more.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:36 am 
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I'm fine with adding it for OR.

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yes to OR affinity.

unless anyone can think of a broken combo of the bat.. GJ + Exile is all I can think of.

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Off the top of my head, the only real big combo I can think of would be in New Republic (Wedge+TBSV+Leia JK so they get Triple GMA and able to Reroll their Dark Temptation save, yet that's a lot of cost to make it work).

They can already get Extra Attack in Republic from Flobi or General Windu, so The Exile won't really make much more of a combo except being able to add 17 more points to the squad.


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ok, go with affinity for both. But let's be careful here, I don't want to start a trend that every NU jedi goes into all 3 factions.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:18 pm 
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billiv15 wrote:
ok, go with affinity for both. But let's be careful here, I don't want to start a trend that every NU jedi goes into all 3 factions.


Nor do I. In the future, we might even do a new Gray Jedi that is strictly one faction. The way this piece started was based on my reading of Vector Prime and the Dark Nest Trilogy, but then it was pointed out Gray Jedi weren't era-specific.

Maybe in the future we can do New Republic Gray Jedi Knight.

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flavour:

"Gray Jedi are those who, though having completed the teachings of the Jedi, operate independently and outside of the Jedi Council. They are typically seen as misguided, though they have not necessarily succumbed to the dark side."

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"No, the Jensaarai are not, nor are they wholly good."
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"Well, I assure you, I see more grey than dark or light. I'm just a stubborn old man, tired of the foolishness of others."
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One thing I noticed. The name should be "Gray" with an "a" and not an "e". While I love to use the "e" to screw with people, canonly for Star Wars it's with an "a".


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:55 am 
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As mentioned in the 3P0/R2 thread, Tim Ballard talked to me yesterday about some of his playtest results. He had some concerns about this piece being a part of the Republic given all the options (Swap, Tow, etc). Personally I disagree, I think this is something the Jedi need and it gives an alternative to the Jedi Weapon Master as the non-unique go-to, but I wanted to pass his comments along.

I really see these guys played best with something like Leia Skywalker, anyway, but that's just me.

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:30 am 
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52 Gray Jedi x2
25 Leia Skywalker
27 Lobot
23 Gen. Wedge
22 Ben Skywalker
18 Twilek Black Sun Vigo
12 Gha Nackt
12 Mouse Droid x6
09 General Dodonna

Can't wait to try this out! :twisted:

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 8:44 am 
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Just finished reading Tim's comments, and it kind of mirrors where we were when started working on this. Perhaps flavor is less important than function in this case. I envisioned this originally as the NR version of the JWM, but then it became something that could run alongside or even possibly replace the JWM as a staple fig for the Republic, and I was okay with that too.

At most, I would be okay with upping the cost to 28.

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Grand Moff Boris wrote:
Just finished reading Tim's comments, and it kind of mirrors where we were when started working on this. Perhaps flavor is less important than function in this case. I envisioned this originally as the NR version of the JWM, but then it became something that could run alongside or even possibly replace the JWM as a staple fig for the Republic, and I was okay with that too.

At most, I would be okay with upping the cost to 28.


I vote cost of 28, Affinity for Old Republic, not for Republic. I share Tim's concern there, and I was thinking in those terms the last time we talked about this. I think I even suggested it :). Anyways, I think it's a valid concern, and I'd rather not do the 3 faction deal with these guys.

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:25 am 
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I think if we drop Affinity for Republic we should just drop it completely and rename this guy New Republic Gray Jedi to leave it open and make it clear that we could do Gray Jedi for other factions later on.

EDIT: This would allow us to leave the cost as is too, IMO.

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Well the talk was just removing Affinity for Republic and leave Affinity for Old Republic.

If we completely remove Affinity, then we'd need to make this piece #34 and then the New Republic Elite Trooper would be piece #33.


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If you drop affinity, I see no reason to changed the name. Same-named figures do exist in different factions (ie Jedi Guardian). Besides,it seems silly to call something a 'NR Gray Jedi' when, they would have nothing to do with the NR

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Jedi Guardian is the only one that has the same name as another fig.

I think if we don't make some distinction there will be a lot of bitching and we will have to do damage control.

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