Now this is the type of stuff that makes it worthwhile to visit Wizos:

http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1207594

That yodajohn just never ceases to amaze. I swear, he isn't going to be happy until Yoda becomes the undisputed overlord of SWM . Instead of focusing on how good the new Yoda is, he'd rather complain about how Dooku's Makashi negates Yoda. Puuuuleeease. Talk about personal bias coming into play.

But yeah, that type of thread always gives me a chuckle.

This thread seems more appropriate for this forum. No offense intended.

Yeah I really don't see the big deal if there was ever a possiblity of a Dooku being better than Yoda because of Makashi. Its not a big deal or anything.

I understand the desire to have game pieces capture that Star Wars feeling.
I even share the posters take on that scene in the movie.
I think Dooku was losing until he found a way to escape Yoda.

However, it is an extreme reason to be calling for errata!
If Dooku were anywhere near my GMY, I wouldn't be focusing on Dooku.
I'd be trying to use ataru style mastery to lightsaber throw on characters it does effect!

No biggie. I was just surprised to see it was gone in the general forum .

On topic, I am dumbfounded as to why yodajohn keeps arguing. Strikes me as one of those homers that will argue anything if it involves yoda. Kind of scary, if you ask me. Glad he's not running the game (I believe I said something similar a year or so ago).

Wonder if he's the same guy that started a similar thread over at Bloomilk, lol.

To some degree, I can understand the complaint, but seriously, if you pit Dooku of Serreno vs. GMY 1 on 1, it would actually turn out to be a fairly even match, IMO. Dooku has 1 higher Attack and Defense, but they both have Double, and they both have a blocking-type ability (Makashi vs. LS Defense). Yoda also has Renewal, so he'll have plenty of FPs to continue doing LS Defense as long as he needs it. Plus, Yoda can do Repulse, which moves Dooku back, so that round would be 30 damage on Dooku, only 20 back on Yoda when Dooku bases and makes only 1 attack. With enough FPs, Yoda could kill Dooku pretty darn fast just with Repulse, lol.

I just don't get it. So Makashi Mastery gives Dooku a slight edge on Yoda. If you pit the minis against each other, it would still be a pretty close fight. If MSM didn't stop ASM, then Yoda would wipe the floor with Dooku.



On a completely unrelated note, everytime I go to type Dooku, for some reason my fingers want to hit the 'y' instead of the 'u' - Dooky.

YodaJohn's Makashi thread is almost as silly as his "Let's ban the JWM's!" thread.

...me thinks you have The Jedi Exile on the brain, lol. Here's a question though, if Yoda and Dooku were based, and Yoda does Lightsaber Throw 3, does he have to attack himself as well?
Actually, LS Throw 3 would get around Dooku's Makashi as well...

If YodaGM Lightsaber Throws on an adjacent character then he attacks himself.
Lightsaber throw is nonmelee so Dooku won't get the Makashi SM save roll.
Makashi Style Mastery states that cannot be used.
Yoda can't use his Ataru SM and get +4 atk or twin against Dooku.
But with Dooku nonadjacent and within 6; it can still be used on other characters.

Doh, right. Was thinking something else. But yes, Yoda could use Throw 3 on Dooku, but he'd have to attack himself. You'll never get Twin on Dooku because of MSM, but at least LT3 would ignore the damage avoiding aspect of MSM.

Yes, that is a nice aspect of Lightsaber Throw. I really dislike how he wants to weaken that Dooku. He's hardly a top flight piece for the game as is. Neutering his Makashi is like adding insult to injury here. I suppose we can chalk this up as another person wanting their favorite character to be invincible. That hardly makes me feel better. I think we can thank people like yodajohn for that GMLS and his crazy cost.

Shame on you for speaking of the almighty GMLS like that!

LMAO. I like GMLS, but I certainly didn't need a 115 point version to satisfy my miniature needs.

Goodness, that thread is comedy gold. He keeps going back to the book to back up his argument. I'm sorry, but I tend to err on the side of caution when considering the validity of SW books. They may be a good read, but they certainly can conflict with other stories and/or movies.

That would explain the problem with the Vong faction, the books were fun for a few of us, but most hated them and have cast them out of SW's fictional cannon

No kidding. At this point, if he got what he wanted and GOWK gets the ban, the only characters Dooku of Serenno would work against would be Padawan Obi and Qui-Gon Jedi Trainer...

No, I think we thank people like him for a certain General Obi-Wan Kenobi.