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Author: | MasterShaper [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Something to think about. |
Been a while since I've been around these parts, so do bear with me This is something I saw happening while playing another game - an online game. It was very disheartening, to say the least, and so... I'm mentioning it here, in the hopes that maybe by spreading the word, more people could work against it. First, a little introduction so you won't get lost when following this little discourse; I was in a 'discussion' with maybe five other online gamers on the topic of forfeiting matches when it hit me that more and more people are using the anonymity offered by the internet as a means of being horribly rude and going against everything that sportsmanship stands for. It might be a tad long, but all I'll say is that the length is actually intentional to an extent Has to do with one of my other gripes regarding the present state of public education, LOL * Ragequitters = People who just leave an online game because they're losing (usually will stay to finish you off if they're winning). * Other alien jargon would be Pokemon-related, but I've elaborated on my points. ---
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show --- Really, one of the reasons why I stayed in SWM was because of the decent people in the game. Alas, looks like once anonymity is included in the equation, things are on a whole new level (for the online game, not SWM). |
Author: | Sithborg [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Something to think about. |
MasterShaper wrote: Really, one of the reasons why I stayed in SWM was because of the decent people in the game. Alas, looks like once anonymity is included in the equation, things are on a whole new level (for the online game, not SWM). Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Didn't see any MDB outbreaks on Bloomilk, did you? The internet is still the internet, and we have been trying to squash our own little troll for over 2 years now. |
Author: | MasterShaper [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:57 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Something to think about. |
Sithborg wrote: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Didn't see any MDB outbreaks on Bloomilk, did you? The internet is still the internet, and we have been trying to squash our own little troll for over 2 years now. As I've said, I haven't been round these parts in a bit |
Author: | obikenobi1 [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Something to think about. |
I've noticed this same trend on Vassal. Sometimes I just want to play a game, and there are guys I don't know that are looking for a game, so i decide to start a game with them. I ask them to how competitive they want to play. They say to play competitive, so I play competitive. I bring a good squad that I have a lot of experience playing. The other guy isn't as experircenced and and promptly starts losing his main minis rather quickly due to bad placement and bad squad building (one guy didn't even put in any uggies in his squad). Now, I always like to give less experienced players advice on how to improve on their playing because it took me a while to get used to Vassal and to get good at the game. People shared tips with me and I feel that I should in turn help others. Well, at this point (after they have lost one or two of thier good peices and I have told them what lead to that happening and how to prevent that in the future) they promptly leave the game without a word, leaving me in the room alone and being a little angry at the abrupt rudeness of just leaving without a word. The least they could say is they forfiet, but no, they just leave you there for 15 minutes or so wondering if something happened to their computer and that is the reason they haven't returned to the game to finish it. I am just about to the point of not even playing games against people i don't know, because lately this is what happens a lot. People get mad and leave, and its really bad manners. So yes, I have noticed some ragequtters on Vassal, and it is very sad that the younger players don't take the opportunity to learn from their mistakes and improve their game. In their mind they have to win all the time. The truth is, you don't win all the time and that you can learn a lot from a loss. If i'm playing online against someone, I'm going to give them a challenge, cause if I don't it is an insult to the other player that I take my game down a notch. |
Author: | Echo [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Something to think about. |
That would be John Gabriel's Greater Internet ****wad theory: Normal Person + Anonymity + Audience = Total ****wad This is a reason that I'm not a huge fan of playing games online, and why I rarely play with strangers on Vassal. |
Author: | Disturbed1 [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Something to think about. |
Yes, trash talking online is stupid. In person, as long as it is good natured, I think is fine most of the time. As for ragequitting, I dont really approve, and you give a good arguement against it with the 'makes a mountain' comment, but to play devil's advocate, it is the players right to stop playing when they want. Yes, they did start a game, but if the game is no longer fun for them, why should they go out of their way to continue something that is now causing more annoycance and stress, than fun and stress-relief? Why make a mountain for themselves out of their own wasted time? It may not be courteous to quit just cause you are losing, but you shouldnt be obligated to continue wasting your own time so someone else can have fun and relax. Some other opponent will come along for them to play. Theyll be fine. Edit: In light of obikenobi's post, I agree they ought to at least acknowledge their are quitting. Just leaving isnt right. |
Author: | Raylinthegreat [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Something to think about. |
What's even worse is when it happens in person...had a guy get up, grab his stuff and just walk off once because he lost his vader to a lucky crit by an uggie on an aoo while he was trying to get to my main fig to finish him off. As far as vassal, when do ppl play? It seems like anytime I try to get on nobody is on anymore. |
Author: | Sithborg [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Something to think about. |
Raylinthegreat wrote: What's even worse is when it happens in person...had a guy get up, grab his stuff and just walk off once because he lost his vader to a lucky crit by an uggie on an aoo while he was trying to get to my main fig to finish him off. As far as vassal, when do ppl play? It seems like anytime I try to get on nobody is on anymore. I heard about a guy I knew who, first round, saw who he was paired against, dropped and went outside to throw his dice over the roof. |
Author: | Raylinthegreat [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Something to think about. |
I seen this happen more than once in our lsg when certain people were matched up against Dean. Then again, Dean could bring in a uggie army just to mess around and still end up winning about 99% of the time there. It was starting to get interesting just seeing what junk army would work for him from week to week. lol |
Author: | MasterShaper [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Something to think about. |
@ Disturbed1 - It wasn't the ragequitting that got me thinking, haha It was the fact that people just quit like that... As much as it is your right as a gamer to stop playing if you feel like it, do remember that you might have taken up your opponent's time for a match that ended up going nowhere. After all, I'm sure that if you told them that you wanted to concede the match, they'd probably be happy to let you do so |
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