Gee, bitter much? You said yourself that you were thinking of changing the name anyway, and I would've let the matter drop if you weren't thinking of changing it.

I've emailed them about signing up, but no response yet. Maybe they're just not pre-ordering. They did all seem pretty excited about the game, but I know they were also pretty jazzed about Skyrim, which has recently been released. They probably haven't gotten off the couch since then, and don't know what day it is. They'll get around to TOR when they return to planet earth again.

Sorry didn't mean for that to come off bitter...If I was bitter about anything it would be the "Let's start a SWMgamers guild but not join or discuss it any further people."

I figure people will get around to it eventually, and I do have two names on there I don't recognize. It's just hard to sell a guild to the less casual player when it has 15

Ok, I gotcha. Can you tell us which names they are? Maybe we might recognize them and save you the trouble of trying to figure out who they are.

And on a broader topic, I've been thinking that maybe I'll consider going the Tanking route (Jedi Knight Guardian) with my first/main character. If it turns out that we end up doing lots of grouping in-game as a guild, then I think it could be more beneficial for me to play one of the less-common roles.

Do you know when we'll get an email telling us when we can start our early access time?

The 13th....yes, the day EGA actually starts is when you'll get the email....

Great....
Hey, did you hear that there's no grace period? That is, if you don't have your physical copy of the game yet by Dec 20, then you cannot play until it arrives. In the case of a person like me (who preordered via Amazon), that means I can play for early access, but then I have to wait for my box to show up in the mail after Dec 20. Bioware is losing massive points in the customer relations area right now...people on the forums (swtor.com) are fuming mad. It's just a game, but it's also really bad consumer relations.

I think it only affects Amazon, from what I've read online. I ordered mine from Best Buy online but I get store pickup on the 20th...

It affects all mail orders. If you ordered from Best Buy, for example, and weren't going to pick it up in store on the 20th, but instead were having it mailed to you, you wouldn't be allowed to play from the end of the early access until you got the actual package.

They're working with retailers (mentioning Amazon specifically) to get it shipped early enough that people should receive it on the 20th, but who knows if that will actually happen.

I pre-ordered my copy via Origin because I almost always prefer digital copies, so I'll be able to play as soon as the servers come back up after the early access period.