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Author:  Weeks [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: V-Set 4 - Minis, SAs, FPs, and CEs You Want to See

Admiral Ackbar, Rebel Leader 15 points.

70 hp
14 def
4. Att
10. Dam

Unique, Concentrate Fire (whenever an ally combines fire with another ally the attack is at +10 damage), it's a trap.

CE:rebel commanders gain it's a trap.



Luke and Leia on speeder (large base) 35 points.

80 hp
19 def
10. Att
20. Dam

Unique, speed 10, twin attack, strafe attack, flight.

Force 3
Lightsaber Deflect


Lando, Gold Leader 23 points.

60 hp
17 def
10 att
20 damage

Unique, accurate shot, opportunist, gamblers luck, pilot.

CE:nonunique rebel followers within 6 squares gain +2 movement.


Admiral Piett. 12 points.

50 hp
14 def
6. Att
10 dam

Unique, Shields Up! (adjacent Allied characters with mounted weapon gain shields 2).

CE:non-unique imperial characters can move 2 squares after they defeat an enemy.

Author:  obikenobi1 [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:22 am ]
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I have an idea for a mini:

Fringe:

Outlaw Technician
Cost: 13 points
Hit Points: 10
Defense: 13
Attack: 1
Damage: 10


Melee Attack (Can attack only adjacent enemies)
Mounted Weapon Upgrade (Allies within 6 squares with Mounted Weapon gain Overwhelming Attack (Enemies take a -4 to saves to prevent or redirect this character's attacks.))
Heavy Assualt Rifle Upgrade (Allies within 6 squares with nonmelee attacks that deal exactly 30 Damage gain Splash 10)

And a few more names to add to the list of mini's I'd like to see:

Fringe:
Savage Opress
Peace Brigade Commander

Vong:
Mezhan Kwaad
Quoreal
Nei Rin
Vua Rapuung

Author:  Cerous Mutor [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:29 pm ]
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Segastorm wrote:
replaces movement? kinda confused on how that tidbit works.


Its in the sense of yoda standing still then springing into his sonic spin attack.
Also stops you from running him up and attacking (almost) everything in some kind of broken ability form.

Author:  TimmerB123 [ Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:05 am ]
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Advanced Door Gimmick - At the end of this character's turn, he can designate 1 door that he can see as open; it remains open until the end of this character's next turn, or until he is defeated. This ability works even on doors that have been designated closed by a character with override.

The major problem with override is locking doors. Regular door gimmick sucks since it doesn't trump override. This is the solution. :)

Don't know what character(s) you should put it on, but I recommend a cheap fringe piece. If it's not cheaper than an R7 then it won't be used.

-OR-

to make it more expensive and exclusive - add this to the ability:

Advanced Door Gimmick - At the end of this character's turn, he can designate 1 door that he can see as open; it remains open and cannot be closed in any wayuntil the end of this character's next turn, or until he is defeated. This ability works even on doors that have been designated closed by a character with override.


Finally - another tweak for a great door opening genius character - make Advanced Door Gimmick replace attacks, then give them regular door gimmick as well. This would make them very strong in this department. Not only could they open 2 doors a turn, but they could open a door and then get out of LoS. As long as it's not locking doors - I believe this will promote action in the game.

Author:  MandalMauler [ Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:09 pm ]
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TimmerB123 wrote:
Advanced Door Gimmick - At the end of this character's turn, he can designate 1 door that he can see as open; it remains open until the end of this character's next turn, or until he is defeated. This ability works even on doors that have been designated closed by a character with override.


CE: Allied characters with Door Gimmick within 6 squares gain Advanced Door Gimmick.

Author:  Weeks [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: V-Set 4 - Minis, SAs, FPs, and CEs You Want to See

New zam with this

Shapeshifter (this character counts as being any race for the purpose of sa's or commander effects.)

Author:  obikenobi1 [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:04 am ]
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Weeks wrote:
New zam with this

Shapeshifter (this character counts as being any race for the purpose of sa's or commander effects.)


Awesome idea! I could see Zam impersonating a Tusken Raider and getting the benefits from Asharad Hett, or Reprogram from the Jawa Chieftan. :Jawa:

Author:  TimmerB123 [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:34 am ]
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obikenobi1 wrote:
Weeks wrote:
New zam with this

Shapeshifter (this character counts as being any race for the purpose of sa's or commander effects.)


Awesome idea! I could see Zam impersonating a Tusken Raider and getting the benefits from Asharad Hett, or Reprogram from the Jawa Chieftan. :Jawa:


This is a great idea, but I'd be worried about things like making her a vong.

Maybe limit it to fringe commanders?

Author:  Weeks [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:38 pm ]
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TimmerB123 wrote:
obikenobi1 wrote:
Weeks wrote:
New zam with this

Shapeshifter (this character counts as being any race for the purpose of sa's or commander effects.)


Awesome idea! I could see Zam impersonating a Tusken Raider and getting the benefits from Asharad Hett, or Reprogram from the Jawa Chieftan. :Jawa:


This is a great idea, but I'd be worried about things like making her a vong.

Maybe limit it to fringe commanders?



That would mean vong are a race and not a faction. I don't recall any ruling on that. I figured vong getting sa's and ce doesn't make them a race, if that's the case then "rebels" are a race as well.

Author:  Echo [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:58 pm ]
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In our game, Vong is considered a faction, not a race, so that ability wouldn't give Zam any Vong SAs

Author:  billiv15 [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:03 pm ]
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Echo wrote:
In our game, Vong is considered a faction, not a race, so that ability wouldn't give Zam any Vong SAs


In the SWs Universe they weren't one race anyway. Our game is very consistent with this actually.

Author:  Echo [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:10 pm ]
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billiv15 wrote:
Echo wrote:
In our game, Vong is considered a faction, not a race, so that ability wouldn't give Zam any Vong SAs


In the SWs Universe they weren't one race anyway. Our game is very consistent with this actually.


Well, that could be argued, but that argument can be done elsewhere. :P I was just clarifying that the Shapeshifter ability wouldn't work with things like Shaper or Scarification.

Author:  billiv15 [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:22 pm ]
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Echo wrote:
billiv15 wrote:
Echo wrote:
In our game, Vong is considered a faction, not a race, so that ability wouldn't give Zam any Vong SAs


In the SWs Universe they weren't one race anyway. Our game is very consistent with this actually.


Well, that could be argued, but that argument can be done elsewhere. :P I was just clarifying that the Shapeshifter ability wouldn't work with things like Shaper or Scarification.


I don't think it can be argued. The Chazrack were not the same race as the Vong. But yes, I understand what you meant :)

Author:  dojimaster [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:19 pm ]
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I'd like to see:
Jerec
Boc
Gorc
Pic
Yun
Sariss
Maw
Ziro the Hutt
Jaxxon (my son really wants this one) :roll:
Ewok Signal Corps (Think the ewok with the signaling horn in ROTJ) It could maybe have Relay Orders (Each allied commander can count distance from this character as well as from itself for the purpose of commander effects)
Borsk Fey'la
Tionne

Author:  Demosthenes [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:53 pm ]
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We need the following:
An SA that causes characters within X amount of squares to lose Flight. It should be fringe and cheap.

Something that either reduces the defense of Mouse Droids, makes it possible to move through them, makes them not count as nearest target, makes them not provide cover, or some ability that allows me to kill a bunch of them at once.

Author:  obikenobi1 [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:24 pm ]
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Demosthenes wrote:
We need the following:

Something that either reduces the defense of Mouse Droids, makes it possible to move through them, makes them not count as nearest target, makes them not provide cover, or some ability that allows me to kill a bunch of them at once.


Here is an idea of a SA that would accomplish this:

Precise Shot (Small characters do not provide cover against this character's attack)

Its basically a more limited version of Sniper, but not overly powerfull. If just makes it so you can shoot over those annoying mouse droid walls or a horde of ewoks. :D
:Ewok: :Ewok: :Ewok: :Ewok: :Ewok: :Ewok:

Author:  Segastorm [ Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:18 pm ]
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obikenobi1 wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:
We need the following:

Something that either reduces the defense of Mouse Droids, makes it possible to move through them, makes them not count as nearest target, makes them not provide cover, or some ability that allows me to kill a bunch of them at once.


Here is an idea of a SA that would accomplish this:

Precise Shot (Small characters do not provide cover against this character's attack)

Its basically a more limited version of Sniper, but not overly powerfull. If just makes it so you can shoot over those annoying mouse droid walls or a horde of ewoks. :D
:Ewok: :Ewok: :Ewok: :Ewok: :Ewok: :Ewok:


+1

Author:  GeneralGrievous [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:01 pm ]
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DarthJawa wrote:
Here are a few characters I would love to see:
Fringe:
Watto
Mother Talzin
Savage Opress
Assaj Ventress, NightSister

Old Republic:
Uliq Qel Droma
Master Vandaar


Sith:
Emperor Darth Krayt (With avoid Defeat or Healing tance {see below})
Darth Maladi
Darth Wyyrlok III
Darth Phobos

Separatists:
Quinlan Vos, Double Agent

Republic:
Boss Nass
Oppo Rancisis
Adi Gallia
Eeth Koth
Jar Jar Binks Senator
A New Even Piel
A Republic Tarkin
A Republic C-3Po

Imperial:
Darth VADER On mustafar
Morrigan Corde
Admiral Daala

Rebel:
a Rebel Bail Organa

I-5Yq
Den Dhur
Laranth Tarak
Jax Pavan (one that does him a little more justice than the WOTC one)
A new Ackbar

New Republic:
A new Republic Chewbacca
Borsk Fehlya
Any of the Halcyon bloodline
Dorsk 81
Kyp Durron (possessed Jedi)
Mon Mothma, Head of state
Captain Talon Karde (with a commander effect to help fringe characters or pilots)

Mandalorians:

Duchess Satine
Tor Visla
Jango Fett
Mandalore the Resurector
Any of the Unrepresented Mandalores
Pre Visla


For Non-Uniques:
Fringe:
A celegian
A Zeltron
More Gands
Elder Bo'mar Monk (With an improved Dominate)
Any Vagaari
a Danthomir witch/ Nightsisters
More Palidan(Jedi )
a Houk
a Dragon snake
a Shapeshifter
Buzz Droids
Worker Droid
Lurmen Healer
Nightsister On Rancor

Old Republic:
Iron Knight (Old Republic)
Selkath Medic (Old Republic)
a Force instructor (that has a commander effect to help allied force users Like +4 toa saves against force powers)

Mandalorian:
Elite Supercommando (with stealth perhaps)
Mandalorian Protector
Deathwatch: sniper, warrior, guard

Separatists:
Commando Droid Sniper
Seperatist council Member
Assassin Probe droid
Elite Separatist commando

Imperial:
Knight Hunter
501st commando
Joker squad stormtrooper

Rebel:
Bothan master spy

Republic:
Rocket Trooper
Grey Paladin


+ 1 to all of these also the sand people booster mentioned earlier

especially want to see some more characters from coruscant knights and the clone wars season 3 (mandos, Savage Opress, father, daughter, son)

Rianna Saren and Zeeo!!!
25, hp 80, def 18, atk 10, dmg 10
SA
Unique
Flight
Twin Attack
Mobile Attack
Advanced Shields 1
Energy Shield
Thorn of Ryloth (replaces attacks, counts as a melée attack and a critical hit)
Override

an Epic Grievous and Dooku, Sev'Rance Tann, and a super cheap Ventress with a taunting ability. More to follow
Splash 10

Author:  Disturbed1 [ Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:46 am ]
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Id like to see some kind of piece that represents it (or its allies that its in contact with) being sliced into the opponents communications. Could be represented by "Opposing characters do not get the benefit of commander effects against this character" or something along the lines of "This character gains all the benefits, but none of the drawbacks, of opponent's CE's, with all descriptive wording (like how the Yammosk changes stuff to affect Vong) changed to X to affect him."

Author:  GeneralGrievous [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:43 am ]
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Odion
30, hp 150, def 18, ATk 15, dmg 20
Double attack
Flight
Dark Armor
Backlash
Force 1
Force renewal 1
Sith rage 2
Embrace the Void (force 3; usable on this characters turn. Living enemy characters within line of sight gain savage until this character's next turn, they may avoid this effect with a save of 11, if they fail this save they join this characters team until the end of the round)
Overwhelming force
Lightsaber Deflect
CE
At the end of this characters turn, one non unique ally can take an immediate turn that does not count as one of your activations this phase. That ally gains self destruct 10. At the end of that turn. It is defeated. 
 

Daiman
30, hp 140, def 21, ATk 14, dmg 20
Unique
Melee attack
Double attack
Lightsaber duelist
Ambush
Advanced Domination (same as normal dominate but save of 16 to avoid)
Force 1
Force Renewal 1
Suprise move
Anticipation
Lightsaber Block
CE
Adjacent allies gain bodyguard and draw fire

Kerra Holt
35, hp 110, def 19, ATk 12, dmg 20
SA
Unique
Melee attack
Cloaked
Loner
Mobile Attack
Demolition Charge
Blaster 
Force 1
Force renewal 1
Lightsaber Defense
Force withdrawal

As well as more characters from the Knight Errant

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