It has been a little while since I have logged on and checked this thread. i thought my concerns had been put to bed. I am going to cover several posts since my last visit so please read my whole post before you decide to roast me on an open spit.
billiv15 wrote:
Several individuals paid out of their own pockets a good deal of money to finish DotF. I am not going to say how much this was or who did it or why, just out of privacy concerns, I'd rather keep it private. Needless to say, we will pay them back as we can. We owe these extremely generous people that. Some will come from extra money generated for V-sets, most from Gencon fundraising we think. The rest of the extra money from both things, will go towards new stuff for the community in the fall, including what I hope will be the return of league kits in the fall/spring for local groups. We intend to keep making sets as long as we as a community want them. But if/when we ever get to the end, and if we have extra money at that time, paypal allows us to directly return any donation made, well after it has been given. So if we reach that point, we can give the money back very easily.
Bill,
This is exactly the type of thing I asked about when I made my previous posts. This was not disclosed at that time. If any money that was raised for this set is used on any other projects without that being disclosed before the funds were raised and especially after being asked directly for this type of information and being told that all funds will be used only for this project, would potentially be considered misappropriation.
This issue may have ramifications much larger than you may realize. Misappropriation is a felony and it doesn't matter if you feel that it is for the greater good for the SW Minis gaming community.
While I and every other SW Minis player appreciate the efforts and the fact that there are un-named people that stepped up to cover the lack of funds from the previous set, it is my understanding, you cannot legally take funds raised for the explicit purpose of producing this set (even if there is excess) to pay those people back I believe this would constitute embezzlement.(if they are involved in the current project) If you want to take donations in an effort to pay those people back, then I am all for that and would be happy to donate, but I do not believe that you cannot legally do that from these funds.
Leshippy wrote:
The printing cost and the shipping from the printer to the distribution committee is about $4200. So that leaves $800 or there abouts to cover the shipping of all the V-sets. I know you are thinking this "aren't they distributing most of them at GenCon?" Yes they are going to distribute many sets at GenCon.
Les, I should have followed up on this earlier, but are we paying for shipping to people that are getting sets without donating? I certainly understand not having the money to donate, but if you are getting a free set shipped to you, don't you think you should be at least paying for the cost of shipping. I do business on Ebay all the time and can go the USPS website to calculate shipping. This group should be able to do the same.
Grand Moff Boris wrote:
Because I don't feel like the community shoud be compelled, even unintentionally, to pay those people back for their generosity, and that is where this line of conversation takes us. But you already know that, as your post indicates.
Boris,
I think this is an oversimplification of what TreebeardTheEnt was saying. I believe that he simply wants to know how much of our funds might be diverted to pay the people in question back.
The issue here is complete transparency in how
our donations are going to be used. I know that is why I started posting about this issue.
I would like to add that I am not a lawyer, but please consult one before you spend any of the money raised for this project on anything other than it's original stated purpose.
"You must do what you feel is right, of course."
―Obi-Wan to Luke
P.S. Please note that when you roast me over that spit, I like either a Memphis style or Kansas City style BBQ sauce.