TheHutts wrote:
I like the CE - it's nice to have an alternative to the Czerka for the TBSVs.
He's potentially a very heavy hitter with IG Tarkin, a Czerka, and Thrawn - he could get up to quad/twin for 30s at +16. I wonder if it's a bit much for 25 points, although it is an expensive setup. You could get him accurate with Xizor, and SuperStealth as well....
Thats true, he could be a heavy hitter IF one were to build a squad like you mentioned there in your example; however, you'd have only 6 activations with 50 points remaining (thats just with one of these KBSV's). You'd probably be able to say that about at least a dozen pieces, more or less, if one were inclined to devote that much to a single character. With only 50 HP, Im positive it wouldn't be worth it.
I even built two versions of a squad featuring all those commanders you mentioned. I found at best you could get up to 14 activations in both without sacrificing competitiveness. Even adding 2 'Klatoonian BSV's' in one of them. The problem is it's still an awfully fragile squad with those KBSV's as center pieces and almost nothing in support... Here's that version as an example:
40 Prince Xizor 100 22 12 10
32 Thrawn (Mitth'raw'nuruodo) 70 18 11 10
25 Klatoonian BSV 50 18 8 10
25 Klatoonian BSV 50 18 8 10
22 Imperial Governor Tarkin 50 14 5 10
18 Moff Nyna Calixte 40 14 5 10
13 Czerka Scientist 10 13 1 10
5 Human Blaster-for-Hire 10 12 4 10
5 Human Blaster-for-Hire 10 12 4 10
3 Mouse Droid 10 20 0 0
3 Mouse Droid 10 20 0 0
3 Mouse Droid 10 20 0 0
3 Ugnaught Demolitionist 10 12 0 10
3 Ugnaught Demolitionist 10 12 0 10
To me that means it would still be balanced. High damage potential, low HP; leaving it fragile, not to mention that people would just pick off the pieces that didnt benefit from the Super Stealth CE, i.e. the Czerka Scientist, before getting adjacent to the KBSV and whaling away on it.
But I do appreciate what you've brought up. I was kinda wrestling with the attack type. I found that at cost 25 the most potential damage output for a commander piece would in fact be 60 without any allied CE buffs. I liked the idea of Triple Attack because, well, there are only 6 non-force using, non-melee Triple Attack pieces in all the game; none of which have a CE. So why not a 'ground breaking' piece? Each new set after the last seems to have had at least one or two 'ground breakers' and having that be a non-unique piece would be cool (uniques always "hog" the glory).
If something like this were to be accepted into Vset #4 and the design team decided that they wanted to change it, I hope it would just be dropping Deceptive. But if worse comes to worst, I could live with changing Triple to Twin... hahaha, in truth I'd just like to see one of these character ideas get used in some form