What would be nice for the Championship is if we could do what the DDM Championship used to do at GenCon, and that is rotate the map that can be played on each round.

For example:

Round 1 - Death Star
Round 2 - Muunilist Command Center
Round 3 - Taris
Round 4 - Chancellor's Throne Room
Round 5 - Death Star
Round 6 - Hall of Judgement
Round 7- Rancor Pen

But it's not really practical.

The worst legal map right now is the hardboard

I HATE that map!

It is unbalanced, and it has been shown again and again how it can be exploited.

And I also hate that it is the ONLY odd sized map. To add to that problem, it has a GIANT sized gambit area.


It needs to go before any other map. Dean - it really needs to be on your list to reconsider.

As much as I hate open Gambit for all of the reasons Bill laid out as well as a few other reasons, I don't think we should remove any more maps from the game. As Rob once said directly to me, it's only a 50/50 chance to play on any particular map, meaning the map roll at the beginning of the game dictates what will happen.

But until Chris West makes more maps, removing many of the ones that we have gotten in the last year is like saying they were never really made at all, as far as sanctioned play is concerned. Let's give it a year and if there are 3 or 4 more maps out there by then, particularly ones that are solid for skirmish play, then maybe we could look at removing some of the current ones. But I think there should always be one or two on the list that are very shooter friendly. I don't mind the presence of Taris all that much.

What would be nice for the Championship is if we could do what the DDM Championship used to do at GenCon, and that is rotate the map that can be played on each round.

For example:

Round 1 - Death Star
Round 2 - Muunilist Command Center
Round 3 - Taris
Round 4 - Chancellor's Throne Room
Round 5 - Death Star
Round 6 - Hall of Judgement
Round 7- Rancor Pen

But it's not really practical.

The worst legal map right now is the hardboard

I HATE that map!

It is unbalanced, and it has been shown again and again how it can be exploited.

And I also hate that it is the ONLY odd sized map. To add to that problem, it has a GIANT sized gambit area.


It needs to go before any other map. Dean - it really needs to be on your list to reconsider.

I think this is a great idea. I agree, it won't work well in practice (too bad).

For example:

Round 1 - Death Star
Round 2 - Muunilist Command Center
Round 3 - Taris
Round 4 - Chancellor's Throne Room
Round 5 - Death Star
Round 6 - Hall of Judgement
Round 7- Rancor Pen

But it's not really practical.

I tend to agree with Boris here. I'd personally prefer a map list that balances melee and ranged more, but the number of maps becomes pretty limited there and I don't think that has anywhere close to support by a majority of DCI players. And once you allow one shooter POWNAGE! map it really doesn't matter so much if you allow 10--melee is gone either way. With the map list I'm very much in favor of majority rule, barring intentional subversion of the process--if players want a map, I'm fine letting them have it. Players voted against Christo by a small margin. Maybe a revote would change that. Dunno.

I'm pretty sure map rotation was discussed last year. It's just not practical to have 64 copies of each map on hand during the Swiss. However, it's pretty reasonable to have a fixed map or map rotation for the final 8. And that does a lot to shape the Gencon metagame because anyone who wants to win it all rather than just make top 8 needs to consider it and even consider just bringing one of those maps as their own since they can then build to it for the entire tourney.