LoboStele wrote:
LukeHatesThrawn wrote:
It's on this same thought that I cast my vote.
P.S. I still hate GOWK, and will not stoop to the level of playing him Anywhere.
This exact sentiment is the one that I can't understand, and I can only assume is because the people who have this particular opinion, don't play in high-competitive environments on a regular basis.
Well of course if you're never going to play him, then you won't see a problem in him existing in the meta. But if you're also never going to play him, then why vote "no" on the question of banning him? It apparently is going to make no difference to you whatsoever. You're voting no just on the principal of it? Scientists originally voted "no" on the idea of the earth being round, but they were proven wrong eventually. I'm not saying this situation is necessarily of similar magnitude, but I think the analogy works just the same.
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I have to agree. Bill and I were on the phone today talking about it. The funny thing is after the regionals in which I fully expect Gowk to make a huge dent in, everyone will explain away his presence.
We have already seen that with the Regional in Texas. There were 4 Gowk squads in tournament. 3 of the 4 took the top 6 spots. First thing said was see he is not that bad.
But if you can find me another piece or squad that placed in 50% of the top 6 (or top 4 ) if you want to shrink it I will gladly tell you I am wrong.
25% of the squads were built around Gowk. The other 75% were geared to deal with him. People dont see a problem?!?!??
After JA... OR and Sith could be in that national Meta and make an appearance at Gencon.... But do you believe that if Gowk is still in play as he stands that will happen. Not in a large percentage. People will be playing for a Championship that involves some decent prizes. If it isnt happening for a badge why would it for prizes worth apporx $1000-1500.
The one squad that finished 12th that played Gowk..... it ended up there because it was stated the player had no door control. What place would he have come in without Gowk and no door control. I am guessing dead last.
I just dont see the argument. Especially if you dont play DCI or competitive..... IF folks want Gowk vs anti gowk to be all that Star Wars miniatures is about then I guess they can have this game. If Gowk stays as is I will never buy a case again. I will just buy the pieces I want because all I will ever need is that $14 starter to be competitive and another $6 - 25 in minis to round it out. If that is where people want this game.... man that is boring.
I have already stated this before and I really mean it, if Gowk is not banned (with the expectation after the ban that Rob look at fixing him or leaving him banned)then I will literally quit playing DCI.... If that happens I will more than likely quit the game. I can just go buy myself a chess set and get the same game as a meta with Gowk in it.
I really wish it had not come to this.... but really one piece should never define an entire game in it competitive form. After all the folks on wizards that called for Boba BH and the JWM to be banned I am shocked nobody else can see the math and figure it out.
I also love the Luke GM argument. Well Luke will nerf Gowk..... yes he may kill him but who saves Luke from the rest of Gowk's squad? just cannot see that in the 150 even with Leia JK.... 5 activations is the most that squad can muster. I dont see how you can realistically keep the mouse droids alive long enough to make Leia effective..... once they are gone she need to be near Luke and she cannot keep herself alive very well.
I love the Leia piece but personally think she is more dangerous with some of the new Vong (with affinity ) and Shado together.... than with Luke alone.