Personally, a more creative option would be like this:

Pace of Battle: After all of your characters are activated, a character may take an immediate turn after every 2 activations the opponent uses.

Personally, a more creative option would be like this:

Pace of Battle: After all of your characters are activated, a character may take an immediate turn after every 2 activations the opponent uses.

Personally, a more creative option would be like this:

Pace of Battle: After all of your characters are activated, a character may take an immediate turn after every 2 activations the opponent uses.

Introduce in a small set to get it into play right away.

How's about making a special ability that makes all characters your opponent brings in via Reinforcements and Reserves (to include immediate reserves) cost 1 extra point? That's technically not a DIRECT counter to the 10 mouse droids, but still serves to limit the amount brought in.

Sincerely,
Jester007

I just don't see it. You get just as many mice without Gha in most cases. The only difference is the ability to bring 10 instead of 6 when you want to. But for the cost, you can do exactly the same thing, by putting 4 in your base squad, which costs exactly the same as inserting Gha. I just don't think it's nearly as powerful of a trick as you all make it out to be. Yoda and the Lancer kill Gha just as easy as the 4 mice you'd have in your base squad, but you still get 4 more activations to start the game.

for reference, Gha/Lobot = 39pts, or nearly 1/4 of a 200pt squad, and can give you 12 activations.

Lobot/4X Mice = 39pts, and can give you 11 activations, with the difference being that the last one can be a 5 pt figure more useful in game than Gha (like a Caamasi or Salcious Crumb). I much prefer not using Gha just for activations, it's a waste. It also despite what some thing, actually reduces your reserve options. Most people replace the 4 mice/ugs with gha so they can "max out" if they want to. But that also reduces base squad activations by 3, which in turn means they need at least 3 mice just to catch up, which leaves some of the really useful Lobot figures unavailable. For the advantage of 1 total activation, in squads that tend to have 23-25 anyways, I will always leave Gha out. Bringing in a TBSV or Lando is worth that loss when you need him. Outside of droid squads, Gha is overused, and doesn't really offer anything other than a person's perception of something they really don't have.

At its core, the real problem isn't so much about the mouse droids themselves, as it is about squads which are designed to out-activate the opponent every round by strategically spinning scores of fodder pieces before getting back to playing the game. I think it's funny that people are always saying, "X squad would be good, but Yobuck and Lancer would eat it for breakfast"...but the very reason that Yobuck and Lancer are so dominant in the meta is because of the prevalence of mass-activation squads. Without the mass-act, fodder-spinning "strategy", Yobuck and Lancer would lose a lot of their value in the meta. Yes, their movement-breaking capabilities are significant...but the real significance comes from their ability to attack while making that movement.

I agree with what you and Bill said, but for those factions that cannot deal with a mouse droid wall (Vong and OR come to mind), its a different story. I didn't mind people out activating me when playing OR as long as got to grips with my opponent quickly. But you throw 10-12 mice in front to slow me down for a couple rounds, then it becomes an issue since OR doesn't really have anything to handle swarms.

As mentioned earlier, an average player won't bring in the 10 mice against lancer or yobuck. What I think the heart of the matter is how can the other factions make someone think twice about bringing in the mice.

But then if we just add more crowd control in the game, it makes it even more pointless for those people who want to run a hoard of Stormtroopers, Jawas, etc. Its going to take some ingenuity to make a balanced change.

Sincerely,
Jester007

Maybe what the Vong need is a cheap but cost-effective flamethrower. And maybe the OR need some cost-effective minis with LS sweep.

Considering we are aware of the Vong Firebreather coming out, Im thinkin these are both hints, lol.

How many points is the firebreather anyway?

I just don't see it. You get just as many mice without Gha in most cases. The only difference is the ability to bring 10 instead of 6 when you want to. But for the cost, you can do exactly the same thing, by putting 4 in your base squad, which costs exactly the same as inserting Gha. I just don't think it's nearly as powerful of a trick as you all make it out to be. Yoda and the Lancer kill Gha just as easy as the 4 mice you'd have in your base squad, but you still get 4 more activations to start the game.

for reference, Gha/Lobot = 39pts, or nearly 1/4 of a 200pt squad, and can give you 12 activations.

Lobot/4X Mice = 39pts, and can give you 11 activations, with the difference being that the last one can be a 5 pt figure more useful in game than Gha (like a Caamasi or Salcious Crumb). I much prefer not using Gha just for activations, it's a waste. It also despite what some thing, actually reduces your reserve options. Most people replace the 4 mice/ugs with gha so they can "max out" if they want to. But that also reduces base squad activations by 3, which in turn means they need at least 3 mice just to catch up, which leaves some of the really useful Lobot figures unavailable. For the advantage of 1 total activation, in squads that tend to have 23-25 anyways, I will always leave Gha out. Bringing in a TBSV or Lando is worth that loss when you need him. Outside of droid squads, Gha is overused, and doesn't really offer anything other than a person's perception of something they really don't have.

Introduce in a small set to get it into play right away.